2008 WSOP, Day 10: Final Table Fun

Gonna head over to the Rio here in a little while to cover that final table of Event No. 11, the $5,000 No-Limit Hold’em Shootout. The table begins at 2 p.m. Vegas time, but I’ll probably go in early for a couple of reasons.

For one, I’d like to eavesdrop a bit on Event No. 15, the $1,000 Ladies No-Limit Hold’em World Championship. Secondly, I need to see if there are any extra details I’ll need to be aware of since Event No. 11 is scheduled to be aired “live” on ESPN360.com. As of this moment, I have no idea what exactly is going to be shown streaming over the web today and whether it will affect how we cover the Event No. 11 final table or not. Will find out, and let you know here what the story is later on.

By the way, I think the verdict among most observers is that the structure employed for the first two days of the Shootout is probably best characterized as “fast” -- perhaps overly so, especially early on -- despite what the tourney announcer said before the first hand was dealt on Friday. (He used the word “slow” to describe the structure.)

I noticed two-time WPT champ Alan Goehring offering some analysis of the structure over on Two Plus Two. In fact, he apparently planned to play in Event No. 11 until he looked over the structure sheet and decided to pass as it appeared to him too much of a crapshoot. He also pointed out how yesterday over half the field -- 21 of the 36 entered -- were gone before the first break. Pretty damn quick, really, especially for a $5,000 event.

Checking out the schedule of play for today, it looks like they might’ve tried to slow down things somewhat for the start of today’s the final table. Players are starting with 1,000,000 chips today, and the blinds are starting at 10,000/20,000 -- again, just 50 BBs. But it looks like they’ve snuck an extra level between Level 1 and Level 2, so perhaps we won’t be losing half our table in the first hour today.

There are four other events going on today as well . . .

The final table for Event No. 12, the $1,500 Limit Hold’em event, is also scheduled for this afternoon. Looks like they played that one down to 18 yesterday, so they’ll have some eliminations to take care of before they can get to that final table. Erick Lindgren, winner of Event No. 4, is second in chips at the moment. Doesn’t surprise me, as he handled the limit rounds of that Mixed Hold’em event especially well. And Vinny Vinh is not just alive (meant both figuratively and literally here), but has the chip lead going into today.

Event No. 13, another of those $1,500 No-Limit Hold’em tourneys, enters Day 2 today. Yesterday while covering my event I happened to be stationed alongside Mean Gene and Pojo who were covering Event No. 13. We were a little surprised at how the payout was handled for this one. Event No. 13 attracted a total of 1,390 runners, but only the top 99 are getting paid. Several players kept coming over to our table, positioned in front of one of the large plasma screens displaying the tourney clock and other info including the number who cashed, and wondered aloud why the tourney was only paying the top 7.1% rather than the usual 10%. Bryan Micon (NeverWinPoker) came over at one point, saying “Are they really only paying 99?”

We speculated that perhaps they had planned a payout schedule according to 1,000 players, then didn’t adjust it when more showed up. Whatever the case, 137 players are left, with Eli Elezra and two-time 2008 WSOP final tablist Theo Tran atop the leaderboard at the moment.

Event No. 14, the $10,000 World Championship Seven Card Stud event, enters Day 2 also, where 80 out of the original 158 entrants remain alive. Alexander Kostritsyn has the chip lead entering today’s play. Also in the top twenty are Chad Brown, Daniel Negreanu, Cyndy Violette, Rolf Slotboom, Scott Fischman, Erik Seidel, Andy Bloch, and Alex Kravchenko.

Finally, one other event gets started later in the afternoon, Event No. 16, the $2,000 Omaha Hi-Low Split-8 or Better event. This is the second Omaha/8 event thus far (the first was a $1,500 buy-in).

Follow ‘em all over at PokerNews. And if anybody happens to watch that Event No. 11 final table over ESPN360.com, let me know what you see, as I don’t expect I’ll be able to watch it while I try cover the sucker live.

“If it’s buzz they were looking for, mission accomplished”

Been trolling through the ever-growing Two Plus Two thread regarding the announcement by ESPN and Harrah’s that the final table of this year’s WSOP Main Event will be delayed until November. Lotta hysteria there, as one would expect. A few interesting nuggets along the way, though. So you don’t have to read through all 567 posts, I thought I’d pull out five excerpts I found particularly interesting:

1. Two-time WPT champ Alan Goehring weighed in early on to voice his displeasure at the decision. “I love the WSOP ME (well, at least until now),” writes Goehring, “but if FT players’ participation in a reality show is required to play in the event, I will probably not play the event.”

Shortly afterward, responding to an earlier poster’s comment that “the real business here is not poker, it’s show business,” Goehring added the following: “My problem is I enjoy playing poker, but I don’t care about show business. What should I do?”

2. Tourney reporter B.J. Nemeth came on a little while later to respond to the many negative comments as well as point out some of the inaccuracies regarding the proposal that were being passed around. Nemeth has already outlined his support on the idea on Tao of Poker and elsewhere.

Nemeth predicts that “some of you will just be clinging to your initial negative reactions long after the potential benefits become clear.” He also says he’d “love for everyone to reread this thread in 18 months, after this ‘experiment’ has happened twice (the 2008 and 2009 WSOP).” Nemeth thinks that then “most people will laugh at all the negativity and misinformation in this thread.”

3. About 180 posts into the thread, Oliver Tse, a well-known poker player agent, shares some thoughts similar to those he’d previously aired over in the Pokerati comment section a few weeks ago. Tse notes the abysmal ratings for WPT’s Week 1 premiere over on GSN and the NBC Heads-Up Poker Championship, concluding that “the WSOP organization had NO CHOICE but to announce the ‘plausibly live’ WSOP ME FT presentation as soon as possible in order to put a stop to the negative sentiment surrounding the televised poker industry in the U.S. market.” In other words, says Tse, the poor ratings “forced Jeffrey Pollack’s hand.”

Tse goes on to clarify just how high the stakes are here, in his opinion: “If the ‘plausibly live’ implementation were to make no difference in the ratings, then the whole idea of televised poker as a rights fee TV property with multiple product sponsorships would break down completely. Televised poker would then be nothing more than infomercials for casinos and online poker websites. Dozens of people, including myself, will then be looking for new careers outside poker.”

4. Professional player Shane “Shaniac” Schleger has made several contributions to the thread voicing his profound displeasure with the plan. He makes several different points throughout the discussion, one of the more convincing (to me) concerning how the four-month delay utterly changes the whole concept of tournament poker.

“How are we supposed to keep the integrity of the game and the safety of the players intact under this new ‘experiment,’” asks Schleger. “Please tell me why poker players should be content to see the format of their beloved poker game bastardized and twisted around in order to (maybe) generate more tv ratings.”

5. Finally, Daniel Negreanu, a proponent of the move, chimed with Post No. 440 in the thread. “Judging by the length of this thread,” he says, “if it's buzz they were looking for, mission accomplished. It appears the majority of the buzz is negative, but buzz is buzz.”

He then goes on to say that he thinks “what most people are missing is that this change will effect less than 1% of the entrants. Getting hot and bothered about a change that will likely have no negative impact on you in your lifetime seems to be a bit unnecessary.” A curious observation, actually, since I think we can all agree -- no matter how we feel about the decision to delay the final table -- the change most certainly affects more than nine people.

He then points out that what we’re having here is a one-time trial which will be abandoned if it doesn’t work out. He says the final nine “will all get a minimum of a million dollars” (not quite sure that’s true, actually). After making a couple of other points, Negreanu concludes by saying how good he thinks the change will be for televised poker. “Reality TV is very powerful and draws in a wide spectrum of viewers,” says Negreanu. “Giving the main event a bit of a boost by copying a formula that clearly works with viewers in the U.S. is worth the risks of delaying the final table, IMO.”