Wednesday, April 30, 2008

The Razz Singer

The Razz SingerSorry for that post title. Yes, I did watch American Idol last night. And yes, I am a sucker for puns.

A semi-interesting thread popped up this week on 2+2. Kind of reinforces something I mentioned a few weeks ago in a post titled “In the Fishbowl.” If yr a pro and/or high stakes player online, people are watching you. You can count on it.

The thread starts with a long cut-and-paste of some chat that recently took place at a $1,000/$2,000 H.O.R.S.E. table on Full Tilt Poker. The chat involves two Full Tilt pros -- Mike Matusow and David Singer -- and a couple of other non-pros, one of whom is named “Sassi.”

Near the beginning of the chat, Singer asks Matusow who Sassi is. Matusow knows, but won’t reveal his identity to the table. When Singer asks why, Matusow replies “ijust catn,” then adds “hes a idiot thouigh.” Shortly after that, Matusow reveals that apparently two different players use the Sassi account: “ther is sassai a and sassi b,” he explains. Then the Mouth says it “would not be fair tohim” (or them, I suppose) for Matusow to say anything more.

The reference to fairness inspires Singer to make a couple of observations. First of all, says Singer, “its a big disadvantage and sort of not fair to me, if everyone knows [who “Sassi” is] except me.” “Not really,” Matusow replies. “Hes an idiot.” Then Singer points out “its really supposed to be one player to an account.”

Looking at it from the outside, it would seem Singer’s second objection (about multiple players playing on a single account) should be the more meaningful one. However, Singer’s subsequent chat reveals he’s much more concerned with the former complaint that in playing Sassi he must play against an unknown:

David Singer: I am tired of all this mystery. Its hard enough to
try to win on a lever playing field. I guess I should just stop
playing these high limit games
David Singer: Seems unfair that everyone know who i am, and
then I am playing against mystery players sharing accounts

Sassi: my name is arthur
Sassi: fonzarrelli

David Singer: How can you win like that, Mike. It seems
impossible to beat a game given that kind of disadvantage

Mike Matusow: figured idiot alwasy got a bad on e in whole
Mike Matusow: blame howard

David Singer: y?
Sassi: sound like david is being a poor sport
Mike Matusow: ive told the idot 10000 times anyone playing
high stakes on her eshoudl play under ther own name
Mike Matusow: he told me if i dont lik it dont play

David Singer: How Am I being a poor sport?
David Singer: I am just being realistic

Sassi: you just are you think phil ivey would ever say those
things

Mike Matusow: well its even better whenther are like 50 of the
monallacccounts

Sassi: if you want to be a champ
Sassi: act like a champ

Mike Matusow: lol
Sassi: not a chump


A little bit later, Matusow tells Singer, essentially, that such a situation comes with the territory for Full Tilt pros.

Mike Matusow: dont blame anyone but yoru boss
Mike Matusow: know one

David Singer: what boss?
Mike Matusow: the one that sends u apay check
David Singer: i don't have a boss
David Singer: u mean howard
David Singer: ?

Mike Matusow: hmm i do
Sassi: im you boss
Mike Matusow: and he tells me if i dont like it dont play
David Singer: i am not blaming anyone
David Singer: i am just saying i think i am at a disadvantage
in this situation


Those responding in thread mostly criticize Singer for complaining about the disadvantage of having to play under his real name as a Full Tilt pro. They also almost unanimously congratulate Sassi for his inspired . . . well . . . sass.

While the account-sharing issue is a valid concern of Singer’s, it certainly appears odd for a Full Tilt pro to complain this way about the “playing field” not being level between himself and an anonymous competitor. As Sassi puts it later on (echoing Matusow), “if you want annonymity, dont get paid by full tilt.”

Matusow’s comment about the need for all high stakes players to play under their own accounts is an interesting one, I think, though practically speaking it doesn’t really seem like that would be a realistic idea.

What do you think about Singer’s complaints and/or Matusow’s idea?

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2 Comments:

Blogger Gadzooks64 said...

I recall hearing Barry Greenstein talking about how all the pros have multiple accounts that they play under. They share their account names with other pros if they feel like it.

After a talk with Chip Reece about playing a particularly tough opponent one night they figured out that they had played each other and decided they didn't want to do that anymore so they would share their screennames.

Apparently, they would hand off an account that wasn't getting any action anymore to family or friends and start another one.

I personally can't believe that these sites are unaware that these pros are doing this. I'm sure that none of them want to alienate these top pros by forcing them to adhere to the one player one account rule.

I agree with Singer to the extent that he may very well be playing someone he knows in real life but be unaware of it online and that anonymous player will have the advantage. It's a double edged sword for sure.

4/30/2008 12:21 PM  
Blogger Waldo's Wild Kingdom said...

David is a class guy. I think Sassi is Alan Sass.

4/30/2008 5:37 PM  

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